Comments on: Pay to play? http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/19/pay-to-play/ Oxfordshire's music online Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:43:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Phill http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/19/pay-to-play/comment-page-1/#comment-2005 Phill Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:10:46 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/19/pay-to-play/#comment-2005 "In a way The Zodiac propogates a ‘pay to play’ sentiment with the “we will consider you for further supports if you bring (x amount) of people” regardless of quality of music" Really? I've never had that - everyone has always been friendly there from my, somewhat limited, experience. Yeah it sucks to be on so early all the time but i think the deal you get is ok and they've never asked us for x amount of people “In a way The Zodiac propogates a ‘pay to play’ sentiment with the “we will consider you for further supports if you bring (x amount) of people” regardless of quality of music”

Really? I’ve never had that – everyone has always been friendly there from my, somewhat limited, experience. Yeah it sucks to be on so early all the time but i think the deal you get is ok and they’ve never asked us for x amount of people

]]> By: Tim http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/19/pay-to-play/comment-page-1/#comment-2004 Tim Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:46:57 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/19/pay-to-play/#comment-2004 Definitely milks new and inexperienced bands for all they're worth when they are not familiar with the possible pitfalls. Almost fell into something similar to Surface Unsigned which disappeared completely and returned as a shadey "Win a gig in America!" company. In a way The Zodiac propogates a 'pay to play' sentiment with the "we will consider you for further supports if you bring (x amount) of people" regardless of quality of music - a terrible band in Birmingham were granted an elusive main support slot at The Academy 2 while we were rejected after selling out a headline show at The Actress and Bishop. Very frustrating indeed! Definitely milks new and inexperienced bands for all they’re worth when they are not familiar with the possible pitfalls. Almost fell into something similar to Surface Unsigned which disappeared completely and returned as a shadey “Win a gig in America!” company.

In a way The Zodiac propogates a ‘pay to play’ sentiment with the “we will consider you for further supports if you bring (x amount) of people” regardless of quality of music – a terrible band in Birmingham were granted an elusive main support slot at The Academy 2 while we were rejected after selling out a headline show at The Actress and Bishop. Very frustrating indeed!

]]> By: Joe http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/19/pay-to-play/comment-page-1/#comment-1997 Joe Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:06:19 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/19/pay-to-play/#comment-1997 Yes, pay to play is evil. Never to a gig for a promoter called "Movers & Shakers" club who operate out of a couple of venues in London. They are pay to play as well being exceptionally bad at communicating. Thereare very little benefits to be had, if any, in playing these gigs. They entice you in with "Music Industry" people and 'famous' DJs. The music industry people are most likely to be someone's friend who has written a review for the local music mag or something. If decent music industry people are around they aren't going to spend their time going to shitty gigs in places like Lewisham. Yes, pay to play is evil.

Never to a gig for a promoter called “Movers & Shakers” club who operate out of a couple of venues in London. They are pay to play as well being exceptionally bad at communicating.

Thereare very little benefits to be had, if any, in playing these gigs. They entice you in with “Music Industry” people and ‘famous’ DJs. The music industry people are most likely to be someone’s friend who has written a review for the local music mag or something.

If decent music industry people are around they aren’t going to spend their time going to shitty gigs in places like Lewisham.

]]> By: ElAbortionist http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/19/pay-to-play/comment-page-1/#comment-1994 ElAbortionist Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:37:17 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/19/pay-to-play/#comment-1994 Try Truck Festival's "Pay £15 for THE PRIVELAGE of being considered to play by uploading demos" to our festival Try Truck Festival’s “Pay £15 for THE PRIVELAGE of being considered to play by uploading demos” to our festival

]]> By: Mr D http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/19/pay-to-play/comment-page-1/#comment-1003 Mr D Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:44:25 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/19/pay-to-play/#comment-1003 Interesting reading about surface unsigned..the 2008 final has finnished,the chairmen won,and the talk about the winners is they are signed by the guy who run Surface unsigned.Don't know if its true,anybody out there can shed any light. Interesting reading about surface unsigned..the 2008 final has finnished,the chairmen won,and the talk about the winners is they are signed by the guy who run Surface unsigned.Don’t know if its true,anybody out there can shed any light.

]]> By: Lupin http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/19/pay-to-play/comment-page-1/#comment-746 Lupin Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:25:56 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/19/pay-to-play/#comment-746 Having played in a four piece band in Birmingham and being knocked out of the second round - it's easy to see what this thing is all about. It's a "who brings the most money to the organisers" competition. 0 to do with band ability and composition. The worst bands imaginable get through simply because they're guaranteed to sell tickets on the next round (which conveniently goes up £1 per round, each round) due to their teen groupies. Wouldn't touch anything like this ever again -- a warning to any bands that think this kind of thing will help them - devote your time to the music, do not waste your effort on "festivals" such as these. Having played in a four piece band in Birmingham and being knocked out of the second round – it’s easy to see what this thing is all about. It’s a “who brings the most money to the organisers” competition. 0 to do with band ability and composition. The worst bands imaginable get through simply because they’re guaranteed to sell tickets on the next round (which conveniently goes up £1 per round, each round) due to their teen groupies.

Wouldn’t touch anything like this ever again — a warning to any bands that think this kind of thing will help them – devote your time to the music, do not waste your effort on “festivals” such as these.

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