Comments on: Boy Did Good – Enemies & Friends (demo) http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/ Oxfordshire's music online Sat, 05 Jul 2008 00:56:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: BoydidAlex http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-668 BoydidAlex Mon, 12 May 2008 15:21:11 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-668 Hello everyone, I'm glad that the review has sparked such fervent debate!! I can only hope some of you may have headed over to our myspace to check the tracks for yourselves. I'm the lead singer/song writer for BDG so please may I introduce myself as a bland and ostentatiously beige member of the popular music drudgery. I found the review to be ok. Clearly we've submitted our work to wrong people as, looking back through the archives, we're not exactly a band fitted to the target audience. Given that we weren't completely slaughtered though, I consider this to be a result so thank you Dave, and Colin for setting it up. One thing I would say though, is that the reviewer did appear to lack the drive to look hard into the lyrics and the music that surrounds them. I must admit that I actually consider them a lot when writing...Furthermore, the entire concept behind the EP was completely missed - Characters & Pieces was a consideration of the manipulation of a mass, consumerist and ultimately indoctrinated society and public that we live in and with and an exploration of the notion that those who control us are an Enemy. That Girl Is Dangerous took this down to a much more realistically relatable level - the girl being the enemy to the gentlemen pursuing her through her fascinatingly malevolent, yet irresistible demeanor. The last was not just the same story with the sex roles reversed but more a picture of how our friends can help us in a time of need, and in the worst cases, where we don't trust their advice and become an enemy unto ourselves...The title, Enemies & Friends as you can see was chosen for a very specific and important reason and the tracks collated and recorded with a concept in mind. My only wish is that the reviewer could have taken the time to explore the concept as a whole. But...then again, maybe the music was just too 'average'. No matter though! I'll probably still submit the next EP for review here nonetheless, just to see what concept is missed out on this time! Oh, and the 40 mile pilgrimage is possibly worthwhile....We played at the NEC inside 12 months of our existence so one would presume we're probably rather good live. Alex Hello everyone,

I’m glad that the review has sparked such fervent debate!! I can only hope some of you may have headed over to our myspace to check the tracks for yourselves.

I’m the lead singer/song writer for BDG so please may I introduce myself as a bland and ostentatiously beige member of the popular music drudgery.

I found the review to be ok. Clearly we’ve submitted our work to wrong people as, looking back through the archives, we’re not exactly a band fitted to the target audience. Given that we weren’t completely slaughtered though, I consider this to be a result so thank you Dave, and Colin for setting it up.

One thing I would say though, is that the reviewer did appear to lack the drive to look hard into the lyrics and the music that surrounds them. I must admit that I actually consider them a lot when writing…Furthermore, the entire concept behind the EP was completely missed - Characters & Pieces was a consideration of the manipulation of a mass, consumerist and ultimately indoctrinated society and public that we live in and with and an exploration of the notion that those who control us are an Enemy. That Girl Is Dangerous took this down to a much more realistically relatable level - the girl being the enemy to the gentlemen pursuing her through her fascinatingly malevolent, yet irresistible demeanor. The last was not just the same story with the sex roles reversed but more a picture of how our friends can help us in a time of need, and in the worst cases, where we don’t trust their advice and become an enemy unto ourselves…The title, Enemies & Friends as you can see was chosen for a very specific and important reason and the tracks collated and recorded with a concept in mind. My only wish is that the reviewer could have taken the time to explore the concept as a whole. But…then again, maybe the music was just too ‘average’.

No matter though! I’ll probably still submit the next EP for review here nonetheless, just to see what concept is missed out on this time!

Oh, and the 40 mile pilgrimage is possibly worthwhile….We played at the NEC inside 12 months of our existence so one would presume we’re probably rather good live.

Alex

]]> By: boywithatoy http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-654 boywithatoy Sat, 10 May 2008 11:16:43 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-654 Tom : "It’s attitudes like this that prevent the release of a second La’s album!" Good. Tom : “It’s attitudes like this that prevent the release of a second La’s album!”

Good.

]]> By: Danny http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-649 Danny Fri, 09 May 2008 18:15:06 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-649 I know sorry i didnt mean to sound serious about opposing forced participation haha! what about the possibility of different reviewers for different bands, i.e. genre based. While no-one wants this site to become some kind of scene groupie heaven the reviews seem (and this is purely from the few reviews i have seen) to be based from a 'serious' musical background. The intergrity of the site is important but my opinions often differ from the reviewers (not including my own band obviously) and i do not think that means they are worthless. For example despite being able to appreciate certain parts of folk music, I personally prefer many of the average indie bands which have appeared on her, maybe a few opinions per demo could be seen, maybe as a kind of discussion between two reviewers from differing standpoints. Although i suppose this is what the comments section is for.... maybe i have just made my point invalid xx I know sorry i didnt mean to sound serious about opposing forced participation haha! what about the possibility of different reviewers for different bands, i.e. genre based. While no-one wants this site to become some kind of scene groupie heaven the reviews seem (and this is purely from the few reviews i have seen) to be based from a ’serious’ musical background. The intergrity of the site is important but my opinions often differ from the reviewers (not including my own band obviously) and i do not think that means they are worthless. For example despite being able to appreciate certain parts of folk music, I personally prefer many of the average indie bands which have appeared on her, maybe a few opinions per demo could be seen, maybe as a kind of discussion between two reviewers from differing standpoints. Although i suppose this is what the comments section is for….
maybe i have just made my point invalid xx

]]> By: Beaver Fuel http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-648 Beaver Fuel Fri, 09 May 2008 14:39:54 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-648 Good suggestions, some may depend on how much spare time the admin of the sites have - just lately it's been clear Adminhead on nutshaft hasn't got a lot of time to spare! The other spanner in the works is the whole spam thing, although if more people could be nominated for admin duties just so content could be vetted before posting so the site doesn't become spam central. It's been said on Nightshift before though that if bands and artists put links to the sites on mailouts and the urls on releases, flyers etc it may make a fair amount of difference without much real effort. In fact, I'll change our mailout signature when I remember... Buy our ep, kids, it's got the url for this site on the sleeve! Good suggestions, some may depend on how much spare time the admin of the sites have - just lately it’s been clear Adminhead on nutshaft hasn’t got a lot of time to spare! The other spanner in the works is the whole spam thing, although if more people could be nominated for admin duties just so content could be vetted before posting so the site doesn’t become spam central.
It’s been said on Nightshift before though that if bands and artists put links to the sites on mailouts and the urls on releases, flyers etc it may make a fair amount of difference without much real effort. In fact, I’ll change our mailout signature when I remember…
Buy our ep, kids, it’s got the url for this site on the sleeve!

]]> By: joederville http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-646 joederville Fri, 09 May 2008 13:20:11 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-646 What about...and this is a radical suggestion, and tell me to stick some or all of it if you like... Sticking the Nightshift forum on this site and making it look pretty? Putting all the Nightshift content up as it comes in, unedited? Ronan could also pass on the reviews he hasn't got space for. Sticking a few harmless google ads in the corner to generate a bit of money? Allow more user-generated content - perhaps a team of people who could post to this or another blog, upload videos/photos or whatever... What about…and this is a radical suggestion, and tell me to stick some or all of it if you like…

Sticking the Nightshift forum on this site and making it look pretty?

Putting all the Nightshift content up as it comes in, unedited? Ronan could also pass on the reviews he hasn’t got space for.

Sticking a few harmless google ads in the corner to generate a bit of money?

Allow more user-generated content - perhaps a team of people who could post to this or another blog, upload videos/photos or whatever…

]]> By: Beaver Fuel http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-645 Beaver Fuel Fri, 09 May 2008 12:16:18 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-645 I wasn't seriously suggesting we force the public to participate! A couple of years back this site was really popular, I don't really know why it declined so much (although it did become a spam magnet) and it's hard to know what to do about it. I'm sure Colin and Stuart would welcome suggestions on how to raise the profile. Whilst working full-time and keeping up a band, reviewing, promoting gigs, etc... I wasn’t seriously suggesting we force the public to participate! A couple of years back this site was really popular, I don’t really know why it declined so much (although it did become a spam magnet) and it’s hard to know what to do about it. I’m sure Colin and Stuart would welcome suggestions on how to raise the profile. Whilst working full-time and keeping up a band, reviewing, promoting gigs, etc…

]]> By: Danny http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-644 Danny Fri, 09 May 2008 11:42:42 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-644 Im not implying we should force people on to these sites, they clearly evoke debate amongst the local community of musicians which is obviously both interesting and important. However as a recent graduate from Brookes who has chosen to make this my permanent abode I only happened across the website from a review on a Myspace page. I think that Oxfordbands offers alot which many are missing out on, and was just wondering on the possibility of increasing the online community? Im not implying we should force people on to these sites, they clearly evoke debate amongst the local community of musicians which is obviously both interesting and important. However as a recent graduate from Brookes who has chosen to make this my permanent abode I only happened across the website from a review on a Myspace page. I think that Oxfordbands offers alot which many are missing out on, and was just wondering on the possibility of increasing the online community?

]]> By: joederville http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-643 joederville Fri, 09 May 2008 10:38:25 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-643 I think Danny's hit the nail on the head. Way, way back, the OxfordBands weblog was frequently amazing...it was a bit tucked away, and there was a lot of other content to compete with. I think it's time to do more of that stuff. Free reign doesn't mean not editing. You can edit your own work, it doesn't have to be left for Colin to do. I think Danny’s hit the nail on the head. Way, way back, the OxfordBands weblog was frequently amazing…it was a bit tucked away, and there was a lot of other content to compete with. I think it’s time to do more of that stuff. Free reign doesn’t mean not editing. You can edit your own work, it doesn’t have to be left for Colin to do.

]]> By: joederville http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-641 joederville Fri, 09 May 2008 09:04:56 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-641 What's more valuable? Good art or bad art? In which case, what is worth discussing? What’s more valuable? Good art or bad art? In which case, what is worth discussing?

]]> By: Beaver Fuel http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-640 Beaver Fuel Fri, 09 May 2008 07:22:34 +0000 http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/05/05/boy-did-good-%e2%80%93-enemies-friends-demo/#comment-640 Musicians seem to be the only people who go to gigs that aren't at the Cardiac, so it's unsurprising that the local forums should be full of them. At least people are supporting each other as there often doesn't seem that much interest from the students etc. Perhaps we should pressgang members of the public into posting on this site and Nightshift to balance out the opinions? :roll: Musicians seem to be the only people who go to gigs that aren’t at the Cardiac, so it’s unsurprising that the local forums should be full of them. At least people are supporting each other as there often doesn’t seem that much interest from the students etc. Perhaps we should pressgang members of the public into posting on this site and Nightshift to balance out the opinions? :roll:

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