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	<title>Comments on: Vixens - demo</title>
	<link>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/</link>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: colinmackinnon</title>
		<link>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-540</link>
		<dc:creator>colinmackinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-540</guid>
		<description>Alan: I'm not aware that I'm having an argument with anyone, not having posted here since the review went up. I know all the writers on Oxfordbands.com enjoy reading comments about their reviews- if the latter didn't elicit interest/controversy/debate there wouldn't be  a lot of point to it. 

Just a quick point: I've never met any of Vixens. From exchanging the odd e-mail with Danny and David, they seem completely nice people. 

Anyway, as Danny mentioned earlier, with more than thirty posts, I think it's time to call a halt to this thread,as both friend and foe of the band have said their piece. Often quite loudly.

Thanks

Colin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan: I&#8217;m not aware that I&#8217;m having an argument with anyone, not having posted here since the review went up. I know all the writers on Oxfordbands.com enjoy reading comments about their reviews- if the latter didn&#8217;t elicit interest/controversy/debate there wouldn&#8217;t be  a lot of point to it. </p>
<p>Just a quick point: I&#8217;ve never met any of Vixens. From exchanging the odd e-mail with Danny and David, they seem completely nice people. </p>
<p>Anyway, as Danny mentioned earlier, with more than thirty posts, I think it&#8217;s time to call a halt to this thread,as both friend and foe of the band have said their piece. Often quite loudly.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Colin</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-539</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-539</guid>
		<description>You guys are both as bad at each other; to the band -if your gonna ask your song to be reviewed when it has not been polished you cannot expect a great review, and to the reviewer if you are gonna post a review like this you cannot expect a great response from the band, or anyone who associates themselves with the band. You guys are both making a half-assed attempt at your jobs and then having an arguement over it. Maybe the demo shouldnt have been sent in? Maybe the reviewer should have been a little less blind about what kind of reaction such a view should have? Maybe this reaction is a good thing and can push both the band and critic on to greater things?....


....maybe the garbageman should wear shoes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys are both as bad at each other; to the band -if your gonna ask your song to be reviewed when it has not been polished you cannot expect a great review, and to the reviewer if you are gonna post a review like this you cannot expect a great response from the band, or anyone who associates themselves with the band. You guys are both making a half-assed attempt at your jobs and then having an arguement over it. Maybe the demo shouldnt have been sent in? Maybe the reviewer should have been a little less blind about what kind of reaction such a view should have? Maybe this reaction is a good thing and can push both the band and critic on to greater things?&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8230;.maybe the garbageman should wear shoes?</p>
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		<title>By: Quentin</title>
		<link>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-535</link>
		<dc:creator>Quentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-535</guid>
		<description>Vixens, check out the number of responses to this review, the scores of curious oxfordbandites going onto your myspace will be far greater than if you had landed a mediocre review... any attention is good attention!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vixens, check out the number of responses to this review, the scores of curious oxfordbandites going onto your myspace will be far greater than if you had landed a mediocre review&#8230; any attention is good attention!</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-521</guid>
		<description>to be fair,we are being booked at various venues and this is from listening to the demo, now i can see the truth in some points made but as to mr anon, to say we cannot play our instruments isnt true. i am not a master guitarist but i have been playing a fair few years and have heard many many worse examples of playing on far more popular/critical well recieved music. as for saying no-one will listen to this- we have 5000 plays on myspace and i doubt my friends are that commited.... we have/ are playing most of the main venues in oxford so i cannot agree with that, maybe you hate it and fair enough but unnecesary hyperbole weakens any argument.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be fair,we are being booked at various venues and this is from listening to the demo, now i can see the truth in some points made but as to mr anon, to say we cannot play our instruments isnt true. i am not a master guitarist but i have been playing a fair few years and have heard many many worse examples of playing on far more popular/critical well recieved music. as for saying no-one will listen to this- we have 5000 plays on myspace and i doubt my friends are that commited&#8230;. we have/ are playing most of the main venues in oxford so i cannot agree with that, maybe you hate it and fair enough but unnecesary hyperbole weakens any argument&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Anon.</title>
		<link>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-517</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Anon.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-517</guid>
		<description>Hello... i've heard your music, and to be fair.. the review was spot on.
Yes, you got rinsed, but you really do need a good ol' rinsin'.. because, well.. i don't know where to start.. so uninspiring, so tediously monotonous.. so overdone, and not even DONE properly..
It's one thing to come out and play when you've got little or no material..
It's another thing completely to come out and expect a decent review when you have little or no handle over your instruments. 
No one will listen to this, apart from to do their buddy a favour, let alone buying it.
Stay up, keep working.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello&#8230; i&#8217;ve heard your music, and to be fair.. the review was spot on.<br />
Yes, you got rinsed, but you really do need a good ol&#8217; rinsin&#8217;.. because, well.. i don&#8217;t know where to start.. so uninspiring, so tediously monotonous.. so overdone, and not even DONE properly..<br />
It&#8217;s one thing to come out and play when you&#8217;ve got little or no material..<br />
It&#8217;s another thing completely to come out and expect a decent review when you have little or no handle over your instruments.<br />
No one will listen to this, apart from to do their buddy a favour, let alone buying it.<br />
Stay up, keep working.</p>
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		<title>By: jasmine</title>
		<link>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-516</link>
		<dc:creator>jasmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-516</guid>
		<description>i think you are just wonderful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think you are just wonderful!</p>
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		<title>By: boywithatoy</title>
		<link>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-515</link>
		<dc:creator>boywithatoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-515</guid>
		<description>There are haircuts and there are 'haircuts'. Graeme from Youthmovies has a haircut, Yannis from Foals has a 'haircut'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are haircuts and there are &#8216;haircuts&#8217;. Graeme from Youthmovies has a haircut, Yannis from Foals has a &#8216;haircut&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-514</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-514</guid>
		<description>doesnt everyone have haircuts? but yeah we fit that bill pretty wel... xx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>doesnt everyone have haircuts? but yeah we fit that bill pretty wel&#8230; xx</p>
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		<title>By: boywithatoy</title>
		<link>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-513</link>
		<dc:creator>boywithatoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-513</guid>
		<description>You know what? After reading this review and all the comments that came after it I had to go and listen to their myspace and Colin, I'll be honest with you here mate, I think you are being a bit harsh here. You know that I don't know them - so it's not me sticking up for mates. It's not the sort of music I particuarly like but it's not as shit as you make out. His vocals remind me of bands like Interpol and the editors (and i fucking hate those bands!) but at the same time he sounds a bit like the dude from Whipping Boy (god, I'm showing my age here!) so to say he cant sing is abit unfair, he's got an alright voice - at least he's not putting on a fake accent like so many bands nowadays.
I think they're ok, and for a first demo it's pretty good but I bet they all have haircuts, tight trousers and a dvd boxed set of 'Skins' - which means they will probably be pretty successful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what? After reading this review and all the comments that came after it I had to go and listen to their myspace and Colin, I&#8217;ll be honest with you here mate, I think you are being a bit harsh here. You know that I don&#8217;t know them - so it&#8217;s not me sticking up for mates. It&#8217;s not the sort of music I particuarly like but it&#8217;s not as shit as you make out. His vocals remind me of bands like Interpol and the editors (and i fucking hate those bands!) but at the same time he sounds a bit like the dude from Whipping Boy (god, I&#8217;m showing my age here!) so to say he cant sing is abit unfair, he&#8217;s got an alright voice - at least he&#8217;s not putting on a fake accent like so many bands nowadays.<br />
I think they&#8217;re ok, and for a first demo it&#8217;s pretty good but I bet they all have haircuts, tight trousers and a dvd boxed set of &#8216;Skins&#8217; - which means they will probably be pretty successful!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-512</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.oxfordbands.com/2008/04/19/vixens-demo/#comment-512</guid>
		<description>"Oh dear.  This ain't good."
Almost ironic.  This feeble attempt at petty nihilism serves only to undermine any credibility as a serious review and falls to a singular perspective personal attack lacking any demonstrable argument.  

The density of comparative allusion in a desperate attempt to show musical credential serves only to show the needy desperation of the author to be validated as some kind of credible or serious influential force.  The lack of focus in the text demonstrates an inability to relate the intent of the purpose.

Perhaps Colin is a great front man and talented songwriter (I may or may not have seen him over the years, so can't validate that either way) and perhaps there are those that agree with the comments, but this aping of the Nightshift Demo Dumper serves no ones interests. 

I also saw Vixens at the Cellar and considering this was only their 3rd or so gig, think they are developing well and show good potential, they were not perhaps as polished in stage delivery as You Animals, but they certainly have the potential to get there.

I also like the demo very much.  I get to hear a lot of stuff and play this fairly regularly.

- Joe -</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh dear.  This ain&#8217;t good.&#8221;<br />
Almost ironic.  This feeble attempt at petty nihilism serves only to undermine any credibility as a serious review and falls to a singular perspective personal attack lacking any demonstrable argument.  </p>
<p>The density of comparative allusion in a desperate attempt to show musical credential serves only to show the needy desperation of the author to be validated as some kind of credible or serious influential force.  The lack of focus in the text demonstrates an inability to relate the intent of the purpose.</p>
<p>Perhaps Colin is a great front man and talented songwriter (I may or may not have seen him over the years, so can&#8217;t validate that either way) and perhaps there are those that agree with the comments, but this aping of the Nightshift Demo Dumper serves no ones interests. </p>
<p>I also saw Vixens at the Cellar and considering this was only their 3rd or so gig, think they are developing well and show good potential, they were not perhaps as polished in stage delivery as You Animals, but they certainly have the potential to get there.</p>
<p>I also like the demo very much.  I get to hear a lot of stuff and play this fairly regularly.</p>
<p>- Joe -</p>
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